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Western State Hurricanes
Print Assaults
and Unsalted Butter
8/18/98

Interview By Deanna Knudsen

Weather alert for the Seattle area: prepare to be rocked by the Western State Hurricanes.

Bands just don’t create energy and buzz instantly; it just doesn’t happen that way. It takes time for the musicians to become comfortable as a group, and develop a distinctive sound for themselves, with awkward moments along the way.

That was until the Western State Hurricanes played their first show. Since their debut before a sold-out crowd in May, the Hurricanes have impressed a great number of music fans. When listening to them the first time, you’ll instantly notice elaborate, dueling vocal harmonies between the two singers, accompanied by a perfect blend of traditional and indie rock. The Hurricanes have depth to their lyrics, distinctive vocals, music that packs a punch, and stage presence to boot -- all within the first three months together. The word is definitely out: this is the band to watch.

How does such a young band seemingly have it all? I recently got together with John, Stephanie, Michael and Bo of the Western State Hurricanes to find out.

Let’s start out by finding out more about the Western State Hurricanes. When did you come together as a group?

John: I was in a band called the Bun Family Players, and we had played a show with Algae, that featured Stephanie as the lead singer and guitar player. Over the course of a couple of months, Stephanie and I got together and played acoustic guitar. Then, my band split up, Stephanie and I got together every once in a while, to play some songs and sing. I think the thing we liked was our voices primarily.

Michael: I was in another band called Jeffrey Nothing, with a mutual friend of John and [myself]. He brought me to the Bun Family Players, and I went, "I want to work with that guy". I brought Bo to a show later, and it’s fair to say he was impressed. Slowly but surely we got the three of us into a space together.

John: Michael and I got together and played with some other people, but it never really gelled, although Michael and I did. Michael brought Bo in on one occasion. Bo is in another band, Severna Park, so Bo couldn’t really commit any time. We had a really good time, so we got together maybe once a week, and just jammed.

Meanwhile, Stephanie and I were playing more and more. Stephanie recorded me, just playing a few songs on acoustic guitar, and she disappeared with it for a month or so. She came back with this fully orchestrated tape, where she had played the drum machine, the keyboard, lead guitar, harmony vocals. She had taken this little tape that didn’t even have any rhythm to it, and had made this fully formed, fleshed out music. I was pretty astonished by that.

She and I had been working independently, while Bo, Michael and I were playing periodically. At some point, we all ended up knowing the same five or so songs. And so naturally, I guess it seems natural now, but at the time it was a little bit like "Oh hey, what an idea. Why don’t we all get together and play." I think as soon as we played together as a four-piece, it was obvious that there was something unique about it.

Stephanie: Originally the whole thing at first it was just to make a record.

John: Yeah, to do a demo, in order for me to find musicians to play with, because everyone else was committed. But as soon as we started playing out, I think the general consensus was that it was a pretty good thing, so people started making more space for it in their schedules. Now, I don’t think any of us feel like we’re looking for other musicians. It’s a pretty solid arrangement, and we feel like we’ve got something with spectacular chemistry.

Michael: Both musically and off the playing field.

Stephanie: Yeah, definitely. That’s one of the reasons for me why it’s more enjoyable than other projects I’ve been in. There’s no crud -- everybody’s fully formed, and there are no drug habits or flakes. There’s this myth that you can’t have a life and be in a rock band, and without dysfunction that happens in a band.

Western State Hurricanes is a relatively new band, and people always ask "what are they like?" How would you describe the sound to someone who’s never been to a show before?

Bo: I think we draw equally from really traditional, American rock and pop quirkiness, and experiment with more intricate songwriting. A big feature that would strike any listener is the powerful vocal presence of John and Stephanie. It’s not someone up there whispering their internal confessions between notes. It’s really involved with a lot of harmony. In this day and age, vocals, and often melody, are often an afterthought. That’s not the case with us really.

John: Especially when you talk about the complexity of songwriting. We do spend a lot of time and effort on intricate vocal melodies, but not at the expense of writing substantive songs. The thing about our interplay is that Stephanie as a harmonist experiments with a lot of different types of harmony. She doesn’t limit herself to only singing on the chorus - she sings throughout. We really take a co-vocalist approach to a lot of the verses.

Stephanie: A lot of times, I choose harmonies because of particular words you choose - maybe because I like the way that it’s pronounced. [John’s] a really good lyricist.

I hear your first show (5/2/98 Breakroom) went over really well - you played for a packed house! What was that like for your first time out?

Stephanie: That was a wild, weird thing for a first show. It was packed.

Bo: Yeah, a big show -- Sycophant has a really huge draw.

Michael: Which generated massive fear in my person... I don’t know about you guys...

John: The reaction was really positive, and being on stage with one another was really comfortable. You know, we’ve all been in a lot of different bands, and being on stage is a lot different than being in a practice space. This band, however, is not as different, and we’re much more able to take our comfortability and translate it to a performance.

You starting selling tapes at the Sit ‘n Spin show (7/11/98), and the buzz around town is that it’s great. How are the tapes going over so far, and what was it like recording as WSH?

John: We made the tape more to hear ourselves for the first time. Stephanie is a good engineer, especially considering what she has to work with. She recorded us on four-track and made a really nice thing, but we really wanted to go in and work in the studio. We worked with Phil Eck, who produced Built to Spill records, as well as many others. We just needed the experience of going into the studio together and fleshing it out. We never intended to take the product and make it a debut record or anything. It’s really satisfying - a lot of people have had a chance to hear the music. We’re playing shows now where people are singing along.

OK, I admit it - I am one of them...

Stephanie: Cool! I love looking out there and seeing people like the Goodness kids out there, like Garth [Reeves], he was there singing along, and so many other people are too.

Bo: It was really cool working with Phil Eck, and think all of us are Built To Spill fans. It was really good to work with him. Phil had some really great ideas, and was sensitive to the material.

John: We have a lot of production ideas, and have the desire to put in horn sections, angelic voices, car crash noises...

Stephanie: Yeah, it’s really not punk rock. I have always thought there are two schools of thought for recording. Either make it as close to the live sound as you can, while I’ve always thought of recording as a whole other avenue of expression, and you can do whatever the hell you want. When I listen to a record, the first thing that pops out at me is the production.

We touched upon lyrics already, but there are some curious listeners who want to know what "Unsalted Butter" is all about. Care to explain it?

John: Unsalted Butter is, (not to ever use the word metaphor in a rock music interview), but the sensation of putting butter on a piece of corn for instance. You slather it with butter, and you have the expectation of the taste of a buttered piece of corn. You put it in your mouth, and then you take a big bite. Say, you’re at someone else’s house, and they’re a health maniac or a hippie or a grandmother with a heart condition. You have slathered your corn with unsalted butter, and suddenly it’s this tasteless, lardy experience.

Is it really punishment like the lyrics say?

Bo: Personally, I like unsalted butter. Put it on some toast with some marmalade...mmmm.

John: Well, it’s not punishment like you put your hand on the stove or something, but it’s that subtler punishment of having expectations of something salty or sweet and finding that it’s tasteless.

Now, you knew this question was coming. Those who read the Stranger know about the new music editor, Everett True, who has made it very apparent that he’s not a fan of the Hurricanes. What do you think of his tactics?

Steph: It’s a bully move.

Michael: Personally, I am after either hatred or love. You know, I don’t really want middling feelings. That kind of thing is a compliment to me. If someone is that vitriolic about it...I mean if everyone was, I’d be a little worried. I’d rather have someone like that than an "all right, whatever".

John: We don’t have any hard feelings about Everett. He’s interested in making a reputation for himself as someone who has strong opinions, and has a clearly defined sense of taste. And I am sure his sense of taste leans pretty heavily towards the Spice Girls.

Michael: and that’s with Ginger.

Stephanie: You know, the thing that made no sense to me was the title "Boy Boy Bore Bore". OK, I counted - there was five girls and seven guys in that show. How could it be about the boys’ club?

Bo: Any critical evaluation of that article is really beside the point.

John: And we don’t mind it. We would much rather have somebody have an opinion. Like Michael said, if it’s a strong opinion, we’re doing our job. If Everett True hates us, Everett True is precisely our target audience in terms of really wanting to maim their aesthetic sense, because Everett True is the problem with the world.

Now, are you sure you want that in print?

Michael: What’s he going to do - write another bad review?

Is there anything else you’d like to tell us about Western State Hurricanes?

John: Everyone is really talented in their own right, and also really talented stage performers. All of a sudden I find the effort that goes into being in a band is gone. Everyone is not just holding their own, they’re leading the pack. In terms of skill and musical intuitiveness, everybody’s there. I think our records are probably going to sound different than our shows, because like Steph mentioned, it is a different art form, and everyone in the band is really multi-faceted. Coming to our shows, you’re going to have a real rock experience. Listening to our future records are probably going to be a different experience, but no less hard rocking.

Steph: Do we want to say "hard rocking"?

John: No. It’s Metal Rock.

Steph: Pop metal.

John: We’re sort of bringing back Cinderella.

Michael: Yeah, John and Bo are working on the guitar picking

John: I don’t know - we’re not hard rock? What are we?

Bo: We’re Hurricane Rock.

 

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